C'mon, you know you want to. And the What Sign is Everyone thread is way too long for easy reading anymore. Here's the rules (I'm a Snake, there's always going to be rules): EXACT date, time and nation of birth.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Tue, June 28, 2005 - 11:09 AMJune 6, 1962, 11:45AM, Patras, Greece.
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For Sooz
Wed, June 29, 2005 - 5:42 AMYes, indeedy, a yang water Tiger.
All tigers: wood
1962: water
hours of the Horse (fire)
Month of the Horse (fire) and
Greece-I'm going to have to do some research on that one. Greece's last civil war ended in 1949, which probably makes it an Ox nation (water)
That makes your elements wood, water, fire, fire, water. No metal, no earth. But no really serious imbalance (although the water and fire, be antithetical could cause some conflict).
Water Tigers are open minded and objective and have a calmer nature than other Tigers. Humane, intuitive and a good judge of the truth, the water Tiger uses its above par mental abilities towards realism. However, the water Tiger also procrastinates, which can cause problems.
The Horse in you (hours of the Horse) will make you want to play a lot, which in combination with the water Tiger tendency towards procrastination may make it difficult to get anything done, but it can also make you more practical.
The Month of the Horse makes you a bit more spontaneous, quick and talkative. You probably like travel a lot, but find yourself too busy to move most of the time.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Tue, June 28, 2005 - 11:25 AMDate: June 17, 1951
Time: 11:43 PM EST
Nation: USA
I know I'm a metal rabbit. I've always been most confused about the relationshp aspect....what combinations are best, and what should be avoided?
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For Zane
Wed, June 29, 2005 - 5:49 AMYes, a yin metal Rabbit.
All rabbits: wood
You: metal
hours: Horse (fire)
Month: Horse (fire)
USA: Money (metal)
Your elements are wood, metal, fire, fire, metal.
The relationship aspect: for Rabbits, the best matches are Boars and Sheep. The worst is Rooster. -
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Re: For Zane
Wed, June 29, 2005 - 11:32 AMThank you Patrick. My ex-wife was none of those, best or worst. lol
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Re: For Zane
Thu, June 30, 2005 - 5:33 AMGood question. As I've posted elsewhere on this tribe, balance is not the biggest thing in the world and going out of your way to achieve it in your chart won't necessarily achieve it in your life.
That being said: in a mated couple, people become 'as one' and your mate's elements may balance yours out. But they might cause conflict, too. If, f'rinstance, your chart was mostly fire, then the addition of metal or wood might bring a harmonious balance to the relationship, but someone who is mostly water...
Zane, this is speculation: I wouldn't choose a mate based on her elements any more than I would her hair color. Remember that the concept of balance in the Chinese horoscope is looked at to try to insure that a child has the greatest number of opportunities, the best chance of success, that they can possibly have going into their lives. Today, in the West, we have a different definition of balance and spend a lot of time seeking it-don't mix systems! We're really talking about two different things that have the same name. -
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Re: For Zane
Thu, June 30, 2005 - 5:39 AMAnd on top of that (I guess I'm feeling chatty today) I don't think I'd pick a mate based on her sign, either. Nature vs nurture, people are individuals, their sign can only give you some clues into basic personality trends, but their lives can alter that so significantly that there is sometimes little resemblance between the attributes of a sign and the person born under it.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Wed, June 29, 2005 - 12:37 AMJune 21,1977
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Snaky Sister Claire
Wed, June 29, 2005 - 6:15 AMyin fire Snake.
all Snakes: fire
you: fire
hours: Rabbit (wood)
month: Horse (fire)
USA: Monkey (metal)
fire, fire, wood, fire, metal. Lotsa fire here. Lean towards wood metal, and fire occcupations. Water and earth occupations will create conflicts.
Fire Snakes are intense, active and energetic and usually have charisma and appeal. The fire here usually intensifies the Snake's already difficult jealousy, so it's not unusual to find this slithery one surrounded (even isolated) within a tightly knit group of friends and/or advisors. This Snake insists on concrete results, but usually because of their tendency toward megalomania. At the heart, the fire Snake want to be rich, famous and powerful. And the fire makes them even more sensual, fervent and jealous than the average Snake.
The bunny in you (hours) makes you appear a bit less intense, but that's just a facade. This quality makes you a good negotiator, at least business wise.
The Horse adds an effervescence and more than a bit of poise. While you're never completely out of control, you like to take things to the very edge, just to admire the view from the top of the cliff.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Wed, June 29, 2005 - 12:04 PMOk, can you do time correction like they do in India?
Although I was there, I don't remember the time :-)
May 11, 1962
8-10 am, Toledo, OH, USA
Maybe my birth cert. gives the time
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Mark
Thu, June 30, 2005 - 5:24 AMHey, Mark!
The time is a very important consideration, in fact it's the second most important one. You birth cert should indeed give the time. But I can tell you that it's either the hours of the dragon or the hours of the snake. See if you can find this and we'll go from there.
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More for Mark
Fri, July 1, 2005 - 7:41 PMYou're a yang water Tiger.
All tigers: wood
you: water
hours: unknown
month: Snake (fire)
USA: Monkey (metal)
Your elements are incomplete, but are: wood, water, wood or fire (depending on birth time), fire, metal.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Fri, July 1, 2005 - 7:31 PMYou are a sheep.
A yin fire Sheep, at that!
All sheep: fire
You: fire
Hours: Rooster (metal)
Month: Dragon (wood)
USA: Monkey (metal)
Your elements are fire, fire, metal, wood, metal. No earth no water.
Fire sheep: keywords; courageous, intuitive, dramatic, self-indulgent, lavish. Lots of energy. Outspoken when offended. A wishful thinker.
Hours of the Rooster: Lots of ideas, most of them never materialize. You could use a personal secretary to organize you.
Month of the Dragon: Only agressive when threatened. Controlled and patient, you may be terribly set in your ways.
Sorry aboiut the brevity of the sketch, but I'm only on for a few minutes, and may not have access this weekend!
Happy 4th everyone!
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 3, 2005 - 4:18 PMOctober 24, 1980
12:18pm
Quincy, Massachusetts, US
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Pitter
Tue, July 5, 2005 - 6:09 AMYou were born in a yang metal Monkey year.
All monkeys: metal
You: metal
Hours: Horse (fire)
Month: Dog (metal)
USA: Monkey (metal)
Your elements are metal, metal, fire, metal, metal.
You will be happiest in wood based industries as metal conquers wood. Metal industries will also be good.
Metal Monkeys are called "Fighting Monkeys". Keywords: strong, independent, ardent, lively. These Monkeys are very drawn towards financial security and are convincing enough to be good salesmen (you, Pitter, with all that metal should avoid sales, it's a water occupation-not a horrible match, but not a good one, either.)
The Horse in you may tend to make you less dependable than the average metal Monkey...fickle, changeable, wishy-washy are all good keywords for this influence.
The Dog influence will make you a bit less independent, you might even consider partnerships in business. This also lends you a bit more charisma, and while you may find a bit more acceptance than the average metal Monkey, be sure that you can deliver on your promises.
I'm sure that your twinship counts plenty to you and your twin, but makes no difference astrologically. You both will have the same reading, however.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 3, 2005 - 8:37 PMi just joined. 6/02/1953, 2:20 am., Manila, Philipines -
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Victoria
Tue, July 5, 2005 - 6:31 AMYou were born in a yin water Snake year.
All Snakes: fire
You: water
Hours: Ox (water)
Month: Snake (fire)
Philippines: Rat (water)
Your elements: fire, water, water, fire, water.
With all that water, you'll be happiest in fire and wood occupations. Water based stuff will work well for you, too!
Water Snakes: keywords-insightful, charismatic and inquisitive. You may be artisitc, well-read and practical. The warning here is that water Snakes quite frequently harbor life long grudges, waiting decades to exact their terrible revenge. And believe me (a water Snake myself) that revenge will be terrible.
The Ox influence may give you physical stamina and willpower. It can also offer a deep and inflexible stubbornness which is hidden from the casual observer by that snaky charm.
The Snake month here adds a practicality, tenacity and durability. Self -assured, financially responsible (frugal, not necessarily cheap), and courageous.
You should be truly formidable in business.
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Re: Victoria
Thu, July 7, 2005 - 5:42 PMYou, JW are a yang wood Monkey.
All Monkeys: metal
You: Wood
Hours: Snake (fire)
Month: Dragon (wood)
USA: Monkey (metal)
Your elements are metal, wood, fire, wood, metal. Gee, metal and wood..are you a lumberjack? If, so, you're okay.
The wood Monkey is a great communicator, prizing personal communication above all but without the average Monkey's innate nosiness. Honorable, pioneering and restless, this Monkey likes prestige.
The Snake in you will add mental prowess to your innate ability to suceed.
The Dragon merely amplifies the above (and can add an uncompromisingly ruthless streak). I'd expect you're brutally straightfoward, if not honest, but those around you should be warned that what comes out of your mouth may not be exactly what's going on in your mind. One writer describes the Dragon month Monkey: "After he gives you that firm handshake, anything goes." -
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Re: Victoria
Fri, July 8, 2005 - 6:11 PMwell patrick!
u r awesome at this.......
glad i started this tribe...i knew i'd find people like u that know this
shit well.....
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aleXa
Sat, July 9, 2005 - 4:43 AMThanks for the strokes, sis. How are you these days? I see from the pics that the little one has joined your personal tribe. Woo-hoo! Congrats, Mom. -
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Re: aleXa
Fri, July 15, 2005 - 11:47 PMthanx patrick!
doing great!
a lil' tired......
luv my baby boy, lots!
he's a rooster:
his b-day....may 18th...2005 at high noon.....
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Re: aleXa
Sat, July 16, 2005 - 4:45 AMOf course I do, sis. Your little one is a yin wood Rooster.
Roosters: metal
This one: wood
Hours (Horse): fire
Month (Snake): fire
USA (Monkey): metal
His elements are metal, wood, fire, fire, metal. No earth or water. Name him Clay, Slip, Mud (Boue in French, Fango in Italian). Of course that's a joke...but at his age, the addition of the water and earth elements into his life will give him the best overall balance and chance at success and the trad Chinese would do that with his name. Maybe with a nickname?
Now, you're a Rabbit, as I remember. Rabbit/Rooster are not compatible. Like, primary incompatibility, so you will have to work hard throughout your life to rise above this and keep reasonable communications going with this little guy...especially as he starts to become a big guy.
Rooster children are self-starters. Smart and motivated, they will pursue anything they're interested in with all their little hearts. The other side of that coin is that they tend to be neat freaks, and appear to be bound to proprieties and routines. This little guy may also be your worst (but most honest) critic, yet at the same time will be completely blind to his own faults.
Wood Roosters are a bit less opinionated than the other chickens, but they're just as stubborn and just as tied to their little routines. The wood here may draw him towards social work or social activism, but with the lack of water in his elements, that may cause him conflict. But wood is progress oriented and with the Rooster attention to detail, he could excel in mathematics, accounting, or research science. He just won't be naturally very good with people.
The Horse in him will (strangely) make him a bit more practical (as if the Rooster isn't practical enough as is) and will add a playful flamboyance to the mix.
The Snake will add extra endurance (physical and mental) but will also give him more control over his tongue.
Most simply, my dear little sister, you're a free spirit: he's a born Republican. Work with him on his rigidity, teach him early to respect the differences of others, but give him the structure that he will sincerely desire and you'll wind up meeting in the middle. And when he shows up at your door one day dressed in a suit and tie carrying a briefcase, smile a mother's smile tell him how handsome he looks. -
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Re: aleXa
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 12:02 AMactually patrick....
i'm a yang fire fire dragon......
so what iz that compatibility? i think roosterz and dragonz get along...???
thanx for the other info...i think he;ll be a suit boy , definitely...
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Re: aleXa
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 4:32 AMHuh. How did I get you figured for a rabbit? I usually remember that stuff. Rooster/Dragon is a secondary auspicious match, so you should be quite good. -
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Re: aleXa
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 10:19 PMi know why.......
cause the girl my monkey ex-boyfriend/father of my child left me for, was a rabbit.......
crazy, cause we have the same b-day.....
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 12:20 AMThanks for offering to do this, Patrick.
Born: April 7, 1954 at 1:34 PM in NY, NY - USA
I know that I'm a Wood Horse with Sheep - ascendant/rising and the signs I'm most compatible with (Tiger, Sheep & Dog). However, I noticed that you provided very interesting insights on a wider range of personal issues/concerns/direction in the "What Sign Are You" thread. I'd be grateful for any insights you might have.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 4:48 AMYou're welcome.
Yes, you are a Horse. A yang wood Horse.
All Horses: fire
You: wood
Hours (ascendant) of the Sheep: fire
Month of the Dragon: wood
USA (Monkey): metal
Your elements: fire, wood, fire, wood, metal.
The wood Horse is less impatient than other Horses. Keywords: friendly, cooperative, and reasonable. With a taste for the unconventional, you may find yourself strongly drawn to new ideas and technologies. Wood Horses like to play, like any Horse, but also have a strong sense of responsibility.
The Sheep in you will make you a bit less wild than some other Horses.
The Dragon might tend to make you a bit of a workaholic, and while your ideas may be brilliant, the Dragon expresses itself rashly in Horses. You may also find that you have a great start on projects, but have difficulty finishing them.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 10:52 AMThanks for the knowledge, Patrick.
Is there anything in my chart that would indicate my preferred or most successful occupations? Other than having a tendency to not finish things I start (guilty!), what about any serious life challenges I may/am facing? (and what they mean spiritually)
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Re: Ask Patrick
Thu, July 21, 2005 - 4:50 AMHey, Torrid...yes, I guess I just missed this one. Sorry about that. Occupations...hmmm, anything fire or wood related should be best, avoid water based ones.
Can't help you with the life challenges though.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 2:33 AMHi!
14th september 1981
00.25 (12.25 am)
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Marissa
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 5:17 AMHello!
You are a yin metal Rooster
The Rooster has the fixed element of metal
Your year is a metal year
Hours of the Rat, who's element is water
Month of the Rooster, metal
And Croatia (which became a Republic on 6 May 1945) is a Rooster nation, so metal again.
Your elements are metal, metal, water, metal, metal. Now here's an imbalance we can talk about. With so much metal you will be happiest in wood based occupations, because metal conquers wood. Lumber, architechture, paper products, furniture making...these sorts of things should be easily successful for you. Water industries will also be good (remember that working with people-sales, psychology, etc-are water based, too! Metal based jobs...mining, etc, will also pose little conflict. But you should avoid fire and earth based jobs. Your chance of success in them is very limited.
Metal Roosters are practical and have great powers of deduction. Keywords: idealistic, optomistic, captivating. You may be opinionated and headstrong, and will almost certainly have a real need for recognition and fame. While metal Roosters are great speakers and honest people, they have difficulties being impartial, and when they feel threatened have a tendency to discount the views of others, attempting to drown them out with their own rhetoric. Despite this outward bravado, metal Roosters are frequently quite shy and emotionally inhibited. The metal Rooster that conquers their own shyness and learns to work with others could be a great social reformer (especially if it pays well). Don't get me wrong: the metal Rooster's concern for humanity is genuine, but so is their attraction to material wealth and fame.
The Rat in you will make you easier to get along with, as it contributes charm and social graces. You're probably still quite argumentative, but in a more pleasant way than other Roosters.
Being born in the month of the Rooster may alleviate some of the insecurity that metal Roosters are famous for. You are likely to be a perfectionist, however, and with all that Rooster in you (year, month and nation), beware of finding too much fault in others. Nobody's right all the time, but the Rooster month may make you think you are. -
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Re: Marissa
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 1:28 PMThank you for your reading! :) It is really very true... (I even study psychology :)). I think my country became independent in 1990 or 1991 tough...
And if it is not a problem, could you tell me which signs I go along with. What about a dogs (I think rat hour like me) or rats? -
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Chained
Sun, July 17, 2005 - 6:46 PMDecember, 18 1976 /2:22am /Richmond, Virginia/ United States -
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Chained
Mon, July 18, 2005 - 5:41 PMYou are a yang fire Dragon.
All Dragons: wood
You: fire
Hours: Ox-water
Month: Boar-water
USA: Monkey-metal
Elements: wood, fire. water, water, metal.
Wood Dragons are creative and magnamanimous. They work better with people than the other types of Dragons, but still usually have an attitude problem. Which they love with all their hearts. Wood Dragons try not to offend anyone, but definately do not like to be disagreed with and will argue forever with anyone who dares to. But this Dragon is also a very generous person and does not have the vindictiveness common to the other Dragons.
The Ox ascendant may give your inquisitive nature a little more patience and you may like to wait until you are sure of what's happening before you make a move.
The Boar month here intensifies everything written above. Considerably. Be careful to control yourself, or the Boar in you might lead you to excesses you'll regret later. -
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Re: Chained
Mon, July 18, 2005 - 6:22 PM"The Boar month here intensifies everything written above. Considerably. Be careful to control yourself, or the Boar in you might lead you to excesses you'll regret later. "
You tell me this after I find tribe.LOL
Thank you for the insight Patrick
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Re: Marissa
Mon, July 18, 2005 - 5:30 PMRoosters best matches are Ox and Snake. Additionally, a Dragon would be a good match for you. Dogs are not auspicious matches for Roosters.
While Croatia became independent in 90-91, it wasn't independent when you were born, so at that time it was the animal quoted.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Tue, July 19, 2005 - 8:57 AMi'll play. thanks in advance patrick!
nov 6, 1956
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Angel
Wed, July 20, 2005 - 4:37 AMWelcome in advance, Angel.
You are a yang fire Monkey
All monkeys: metal
You, fire.
Hours of the Rat (water)
Month of the Boar (water) and
USA-Monkey: metal
Your elements are metal, fire, water, water, metal.
Fire Monkeys are innovative and usually have great leadership potential. Keywords: truthful, expressive, libidinous, driven. Can you say "control issues"? I thought you could. On the negative side, this Monkey harbors deep suspicions about the motivations of others.
The Rat influence (hours) adds a sparking personality and a sense of how to hold onto money.
The Boar influence (month) makes a Monkey who's prone to hedonism and an uncompromising way of thinking. There will also be a corresponding amplification in the aforementioned control issues. This Monkey demands getting its own way or getting even.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Sun, July 24, 2005 - 3:24 PMhi patrick!
here's my info:
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Luna
Thu, July 28, 2005 - 4:30 AMYou are a yang water Rat. Born in the hours of Snake, the month of the Dragon.
All Rats water
You Water
Snake fire
Dragon wood
USA metal
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Let's start with Luna!
Tue, August 2, 2005 - 6:44 AMThanks for being patient, the acupuncture in combination with chirpractic and massage therapy is helping the sciatica, and although not cured, it's much better.
Water Rats are usually the most insightful of the Rats. They are thinkers AND do-ers, although many frequently mistake them for thinkers only. While water Rats are more than capable of succeeding in whatever they choose, their tendency to babble on at length about everything to anyone who will listen makes them uniquely unsuited to occupations where secrecy is paramount. Water Rats, with their love of the intellectual, make good teachers, textbook writers, or professional students.
The Snake influence will make you a bit more tight-lipped than the average water Rat and will also give you a charisma that could attract lots of admirers. Because of the natural Rat aptitude for finance, the Snake influence might make you a great fundraiser: your charisma should make it easy for you to get money from others.
The Dragon increases your charm, makes you a bit headstrong, gives you committment to the truth, and makes you more sociable than the average Rat.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Tue, July 26, 2005 - 8:54 PM6/24/72 6 42 am roswell new mexico -
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Re: Ask Patrick
Tue, July 26, 2005 - 9:44 PMI;ve been offline for a couple of days, hang tight...I'll get to these requests soon. -
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JW
Thu, July 28, 2005 - 4:42 AMDidn't I already do yours? Yes...over on the what sign is everyone thread:
As previous, you were born in a yang wood Monkey year, the fixed element of the Monkey is metal. Hours of the Snake (fire), month of the Dragon (wood) and the USA is a Monkey (metal nation).
You elements are: wood, metal, fire, wood, metal. Missing earth and water...perhaps we should name you Mud?
Wood Monkeys are known to be good communicators, but generally aren't as nosy as other Monkeys, preferring to mind their own business. Honorable yet restless, the Wood Monkey has a strong pioneering spirit and an acute awareness of his surroundings (and the opportunities they provide). This resourceful Monkey has admirable standards and likes orderliness in his life.
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Re: Ask Patrick
Thu, July 28, 2005 - 4:39 AMYang water Rat
all rats: water
You: water
Hours of the Rabbit: wood
Month of the Horse: fire
USA (Monkey): metal
Elements; water, water, wood, fire metal.
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