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what are everyones ascendants? as in the animal aspect according to the hours of birth, which some would say is more accurately described as the shadow self as opposed to the classical western concept of the ascendant
For example, I was born between 11 PM and 1 Am, the hours of the Rat, so I'm a Tiger/Rat, which is why I hope to fare better than most Tigers in the year of my archnemesis the Monkey, since Rats are part of a friendship/compatability trine with the Monkey and the Dragon. Knowing your ascendant helps in relationships too when you know the others ascendant.
For example, I was born between 11 PM and 1 Am, the hours of the Rat, so I'm a Tiger/Rat, which is why I hope to fare better than most Tigers in the year of my archnemesis the Monkey, since Rats are part of a friendship/compatability trine with the Monkey and the Dragon. Knowing your ascendant helps in relationships too when you know the others ascendant.
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Thu, January 29, 2004 - 1:56 AMso where would between 1pm and 2pm place me? -
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Thu, January 29, 2004 - 2:00 AMnevermind -- got from the calculator in the next message :) -
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Wed, February 4, 2004 - 10:57 AMI can't find the calculator. I was born between 6 and 7PM. -
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Wed, February 4, 2004 - 11:33 AMFreyja, that means you're ascendant is the rooster. Which makes you an even spunkier rabbit. The rooster being your direct opposite, it also makes you a study in contrasts. You're bolder than most rabbits, and speak your mind moreso. You aslo get along better with Snakes, Ox's and Roosters moreso than most rabbits.
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Thu, January 29, 2004 - 6:33 AMHey Soul Brother- I'm a Tiger w/ Rat Ascendant too.
I don't feel threatened by the Monkeys, or their year. I find that if we generally stay out of each others' way, all will be well. But those Monkeys sure do like to rock boats and pull tails...
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Wed, February 4, 2004 - 10:09 AM-well, i'm a dragon: my companion is a HORSE-born between-
11am-1pm
so, to sum it up:yang-wood-fire-dragon{horse}........
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Wed, February 4, 2004 - 11:37 AMHere are the ascendant hours for everyone:
11 pm to 1 am: Rat
1 am to 3 am: Ox
3 am to 5 am: Tiger
5 am to 7 am: Rabbit
7 am to 9 am: Dragon
9 am to 11 am: Snake
11 am to 1 pm: Horse
1 pm tp 3 pm: Sheep
3 pm to 5 pm: Monkey
5 pm to 7 pm: Rooster
7 pm to 9 pm: Dog
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Wed, February 4, 2004 - 12:11 PMthanx-Xofer! i should've thought of that....... -
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Thu, February 12, 2004 - 8:13 PMthis info applies, regardless of birth location? -
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Fri, February 13, 2004 - 1:38 PMYea but some people adjust for longitude.
See the post "the depths: four pillars, its not just year signs" for links to calculators for the whole chart.
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Sat, September 22, 2007 - 2:07 PMI have this old book about chinese astrology,that,in addition to the monthly and horary ascendants,speaks about a "millennial ascendant"...or something like that.
In the book there is a page to help u calculate it;it's divided into 3 columns:
-the one on the left shows the months of the year,with all the dates,
-the one on the middle is divided into 2:on the right,the ascendant,and on the left,the midheaven(the chinese signs,enumerated),
-the one on the right shows the hours of the day.
You're supposed to unite your approximate day of birth,from the left column,with your hour of birth,on the right column.The place where the line intersects with the middle-column is supposed to point out your millennial ascendant and midheaven.
HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THIS?PLEASE,TELL!AND GIVE LINKS!
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Mon, February 16, 2004 - 3:07 PMYou know, in addition to the Year animal, and the hour animal, there's also month and day animals to be considered as well. -
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Wed, February 18, 2004 - 5:00 AMhey lex... i was born 7:49 am.. guess what i am? tee hee! im on your back! watch out, i bite....
DiNk!
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Wed, February 18, 2004 - 6:25 PMWell, it's determined by when you were born. -
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Thu, February 19, 2004 - 12:23 AMright, but in what manner? what correspondences are used? -
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Thu, February 19, 2004 - 2:21 PMIt has to do with something called "The Heavenly Stems and Earthly Branches." It's a sixty year cycle of heavenly movement. It gets really really deep - I don't understand much of it, but it relates also to the Yi Jing (I Ching), and a whole host of other stuff in Chinese philosophy.
If you want to compute your Chinese Astrological chart, check out a book called "Treasures of Tao" by David Twicken. The organization of the material is a little confusing at times, but all the information you need to do your chart is in there. To get into the I ching/heavenly stems-earthly branches connection, you want to look at "The Book of Changes and the Unchanging Truth" by Hua Ching Ni. -
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Thu, February 19, 2004 - 2:52 PM*points to his topic "the depths: four pillars, its not just year signs" for the second time*
Maybe a link will help the topic gain some life.
www.tribe.net/tribe/servl...iewThread.vm -
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Wed, March 17, 2004 - 9:48 PMok, so I'm a Rabbit/ Dog, I'll have to look up that dog part................. -
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Thu, March 18, 2004 - 8:57 AMWait... The post seems incomplete...
Here are the ascendant hours for everyone:
11 pm to 1 am: Rat
1 am to 3 am: Ox
3 am to 5 am: Tiger
5 am to 7 am: Rabbit
7 am to 9 am: Dragon
9 am to 11 am: Snake
11 am to 1 pm: Horse
1 pm tp 3 pm: Sheep
3 pm to 5 pm: Monkey
5 pm to 7 pm: Rooster
7 pm to 9 pm: Dog
9pm to 11pm??? I was born at 9:33pm. What's my Ascendant then?
I'm a wood-Tiger-what?
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Thu, March 18, 2004 - 4:35 PMGee, I'm not sure how to feel about that...
wouldn't a tiger eat a boar? For that matter, I think the tiger would probably eat my western sign too -Pisces. heh
So anyway, if I'm a wood tiger, would the boar also be modified by wood? Or would it have it's own element? -
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Fri, March 19, 2004 - 8:18 AMgoodness ... all very confusing ...
if the birth date (year, month, dayofweek), hour, element, ascendant, all effect our chinese animal signs ...
then how do you get more specific ?!?!?!???
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Wed, March 31, 2004 - 2:51 PMThe boar would have it's own element.
As a note, each "animal" has it's natural elemental affinity, then there's the element of the actual time.
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Sun, March 21, 2004 - 10:02 AM"Why must I feel like that... Why must I chase the Cat? Nothing but the Dog in me..." : )
Fire Goat/Dog ASC
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Wed, March 31, 2004 - 2:56 PMThe hour pillar, or ascendant as it seems to be called here has the same cycle of sixty stem branch combinations as the year.
Depending on what day you were born on, the hour will be modified by one of the five elements.
This stuff is not easily done in the head, so if you want to calculate it, you're either going to need a book with some tables, or a trustworthy internet site.
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Tue, March 23, 2004 - 11:48 PMthere are four cycles of sixty in constant rotation in the chinese cycle. The only way to calculate what it was on your day is to know what it was on another day, then count forward. the cycle of sixty starts with woodrat, then wood ox then fire tiger, fire rabbit, earth dragon... etc.
The hour of the day give the ascendant without much fuss, but remember to keep daylight savings time in mind.
Hope that helps a little.
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Thu, April 1, 2004 - 1:00 PMHey guys, I'm a fire Snake with Pig rising. Could anyone comment on having opposite signs as Year and Rising signs? Which elements would Pig bring to the Snake nature?
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Mon, April 26, 2004 - 8:17 PMHelp!!!! It appears I am in deep trouble...without a scrap of water in my chart...which happens to correspond with MONEY...WHAT SHOULD I DO???????????? THIS IS WHAT I CAME UP WITH FROM THE OTHER POST...FOR THE FOUR PILLARS...YIKES
Female Fire Female Soil Male Fire Female Fire
Red Rabbit Brown Chicken Red Horse Red Snake Five elements
Soil (you) Metal (kids) Water (money) Wood (job) Fire m
Total 97 18 0 33 330
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Sat, September 22, 2007 - 1:57 PMwater corresponds with kids...i did that thing too
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Wed, September 26, 2007 - 5:32 PMEi, i was born in 83 at 11h30m am, in portugal. My secret animal is snake, right? In a four pillar calculater i found in the net it said that i'm a metal snake! I was born in the day of the metal monkey! -
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Wed, October 3, 2007 - 7:52 AMNewbie here.Apparently I'm a fire dragon,with my secret animal being a snake.I'm not too familer with chinese astrology,so I'm not sure what all this means. -
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Wed, October 3, 2007 - 9:45 AMDragon / Horse here the best!
Love to roam and breath hotness on everyone I meet.
1976, 12:30PM.
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